Eldest by Christopher Paolini
Set in a mythical land Alagaesia, much in theory like Tolkien’s “middle” earth, Eldest (Inheritance, Book 2)
There’s even a romance substory between Eragon and the elf he saved before, which amounts to nothing but frustration. Probably Paolini is saving total release until his last book in the trilogy. And while this romantic tension is irritating, everytime Arya refuses his advances when you expect her to finally give in keeps you hooked nicely along.
Read if you liked the first one, or want a quick throw-away fantasy with more plot movement than fresh ideas.
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on September 4th, 2005 at 1:36 am
I just finished reading “Eldest” and enjoyed the development of an enlightened spiritual state in the characters. The idea of using the living beings in the environment as a source of power to enable change, (i.e. a logic based magic system), the presentation of a situation where the bad beings have a more efficient form of magic because of 100 years more practice than the good beings, & then using this to produce a cliff-hanger, causes me to speculate about how this occurred and about how the contest will be won.
The facts as presented concerning magic:
With the proper awareness, life-force can be used to change creation
The complexity and speed of the change determine the amount of life force needed; i.e. increasing complexity and speed use proportionally more life-force
Language has been used to structure the life-force changes and thereby make controlling them easier
Song is used to make complex changes easier and faster
Life-force can be acquired from living beings other than oneself, the extraction of which may require replenishment if the life form is to survive
Facts that will be presented concerning magic:
Karma exists, all that you be, (think, say, do etc.) comes back to you
o Bad beings devise ways to delay their Karma or get someone else to carry the burden for them, (i.e. selling one’s soul causes you to be a stand in for the evil one’s Karma)
o Good beings devise ways to speed up their Karmic return. The ultimate goal is to have your Karmic return become instant and immediate, (the end result of having instant Karma = whatever an evil one does to you happens to them instantly and immediately / it cannot go anywhere else or be taken by any other being)
This knowledge of Karma causes good beings to adopt a well known Mahayana Buddhist principle as the foundation of their magic or spiritual practice
o From: “For a Brilliant Life” Shinjuku (Tokyo), Japan July, 1991
o No matter what the reason
o One must never kill another person
o One must never kill oneself
o The wisdom of Buddhist teachings begins and ends here
o By: Daisaku Ikeda
To Continue To Be Forgiven Always Remember
o Forgiving a living being,
o oneself or others,
o is a charitable act.
o Virtue is its own reward.
o Virtue is its own punishment.
Methods by which the bad beings could increase the speed and complexity, (i.e. efficiency), of their magic, (ability to change creation or create):
Change the dragon so that it becomes an energy storehouse, much the way a camel stores water
Use the life-force of the amassed armies to enact complex changes quickly, killing large numbers of the soldiers in the process
Use the energy of the souls of the dead to cause the changes, causing these non-corporeal beings extreme suffering, (since they are not mortal and cannot die); access to this type of energy source usually implies extreme evil, such as a “Deal with the Devil”
Methods by which the good beings could increase the speed and complexity, (i.e. efficiency), of their magic, (ability to change creation or create):
Use of the sun as a life-force source, the disadvantage of this is that it is exhaustible, i.e. a finite source
Use the central creative force in creation as a life-force source, the advantage of this source is that it is infinite. This source is better know as, The Incomprehensible Mystic Law of Cause and Effect, Allah, and/or God; depending upon your perspective. This is why good always wins over evil.
The end result of this is good beings who do no harm, defeat all evil (with the warning that, “The judgment you render is your own!”), heal the sick, raise the dead, walk on water, feed the multitudes, and gradually by example, teach all beings The Way.
on September 19th, 2005 at 2:35 pm
Eragon was a fantastic book, Eldest was amazing, those that love, Garth Nix, William Nicholson and Phillip Pullman will be blown away by the young Christopher Paolini!
on September 21st, 2005 at 2:38 pm
I though both books were so good that I read them 45 times!
on September 23rd, 2005 at 9:38 pm
If there was one redeeming quality in Eragon or Eldest, it was the dragon Sapphira. But she was the only thing that was enjoyable.
Paolini, to be frank, is an ametuer writer and the fact that his novels were published is a classic example of when good chances happen to bad ideas. The stereotypes are massive, numerous, and impossible to ignore. Eragon is far from a likeable hero, instead he alternates between wonder-boy to whiny infant in the space of a few pages. The fact alone that he could have learned to swordfight well in a few weeks gives you an indication of how unrealistic he is. The names and places are pathetic. Paolini seems to think that because he created a language he should automatically win the praise of the public. In actuallity, it doesn’t take much to create a language, especially one that is as mediocre as his. Look, I'’l do it right now.
Egrtejebkje: dragon
Hehjoiejoiejp: man
getebehb: the verb to be, conjugated into
I am: getegehj
she is/he is: getegbe
it is: getetete
they are: getretetetetetete
we are: getetevf
And we have the first several words for my new language, which is as un-pronouceable as Paolini’s. Easy. The only thing that gave Tolkien’s language such life was that, in reality, Tolkien was a linguist which meant that he studied languages and had a grasp for grammatical structures. Paolini hasn’t done that. Like me, he just combines words with a few consistencies and calls them a language.
Previous critics have mentioned the Lord of the Rings and Mcaffery stereotypes. There are also references to Star Wars, Jordan, and Martin’s name Arya has been recycled by Paolini to serve as the name of a beautiful (of course) elf.
Eragon’s romance is pathetic. The charatcers’ depths are so shallow that they prevent any reader from immerging themselves in the book. Overall, it is just sickening that so many people can call this rubbish a passable story
on September 24th, 2005 at 9:39 pm
Juila barcia is an obsessed lesbian nd needs to get a life……try kissing a guy for a start
on September 27th, 2005 at 3:04 am
Fabulous books, both of them. I think fyrth is a complete asshole not to recognize the quality of the books. Anybody who doubts Eragon and Eldest should just try writing a book themselves and see how much better they are than Chris Paolini.
anyway…….bye y’all
on October 29th, 2005 at 10:23 am
I think that they are both great books, but nobody could call them original. It is unrealistic that Eragon learns to swordfight etc etc in such a short time, but hey, suspend disbelief and it makes for an absorbing, great read.
on November 9th, 2005 at 8:09 pm
The books were great but too unreal. Eragon can go from super-strong to super-pathetic in the span of 3 pages. its dumb. the only character that lived up to my expectations was Saphira. it also dissapointed me that Eragon and Saphira have only fought together 1 time in both books!! its dumb. 50% satisfaction for Eldest, 90% for Eragon
on November 14th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
I loved the first book Eragon. Im not even done with it completely, but I can already tell Im gunna like it no matter what happens, ^._^
Im getting the other book Eldest as soon as possible, and I might have to buy Eragon in hard cover because I took the book absolutley everywhere with me and it got kind of beat up. But no matter, ’cause Im getting both of the books in hard cover this time around.
I want to be an author myself really bad. I already started writing a story for fun and for my friends to read and review and Im up to chapter forty six. Its called Heart to Heart and I would love to get it published some day ^.^
Until then, Im going to keep reading your books, hoping to get a little closer to my dream!
~With love,
Kanon
on December 6th, 2005 at 4:45 am
I wnat to read this book but i dont have money so some one can share with me in the link mail “minherik@yahoo.com.vn”
thx
on December 29th, 2005 at 7:52 pm
well…. fyrth has a point about the language bits. I myself am bilingual, and notice the poor structures of Paolini’s languages. What fyrth and Paolini created can still be considered languages, except for the fact that fyrth only translated a few literary….parts into gibberish, using only geteeteteht and shit like that. Paolini actually derived his Elvish from norse, but made Urgal and Dwarfish up. I am an aspiring author/producer/writer and once made up a language to be used for a tribe of aliens. it was hideously complex, so i just quit there. As for Paolini’s languages to be unpronouncable, whats the difference between Tolkien’s? When i first read a word in the Ancient Language, I noticed a striking similarity to Tolkien’s pronounciations. There is a real language known as Latin, and when literally translated into English, it often is word for word, but just as often silly. Phrases could come out as things like “The cook of western the street jolly is.” When translated into other languages, such as French or Polish, more often than in English the grammar is correct word-for-word. So fyrth is wrong about much, but right about much, but seems angry at Paolini or just a bad critic. I have noticed a striking similarity in the events of Star Wars (Episodes 4,5,6) to Eragon-Eldest. Arya could be leia, Murtagh could be Han Solo in some parts, Coruscant could be Uru^Baen, Galbatorix may be a cross between the Death Star, Darth Vader, and the Emperor. The Empire is the Empire, the Varden the Rebel Alliance for their striving of the old ways, and their Alliance (many SW worlds, Surda and Varden). I could go on, but I need to get to other things….
on January 1st, 2006 at 4:47 pm
i got eragon for christmas and i loved it… however, i did not recieve eldest. i live in quito, ecuador and the mail service here is extreamly poor. is there a online version… if so can someone send me the link… my email is[im using dashes instead of underscores and a two for ‘at’ because my shift keys dont work] pushup-on-the-moon2hotamil.com
on January 1st, 2006 at 8:28 pm
I’ve read both Eragon and Eldest, and I have to admit, they’re similar to Tolkien’s works. Think, though. These aspects are what MAKES a fantasy series. Would you like it any better if Paolini had taken one of these major ingredients out? Both Eldest and Eragon are good, through reads, and regardless of what others say (Fyrth the dick sucker, for example), you can see the amount of work and thought that went into these books, with good results. I’d like to see half of Paolini’s reviewers try to make such a dynamic book themselves. You’ll see it’s not as easy to criticise.
on January 5th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
I thoght both books were awsome. Im really looking forward to the next one
EMPIRE!
on January 7th, 2006 at 2:37 pm
i thought the books where good and i cant wait for the next one. i want to see eragon die in the end though
on January 7th, 2006 at 2:54 pm
like some people said before, this book has elements from other books suck as Lord of the Rings and robert jordans “the wheel of time”.
P.S. i still want to see eragon die
on January 9th, 2006 at 11:10 am
I’ve read Eragon[simply superb],n gunna start Eldest….very excited!!……i must say- anybody trying to beat this book….will hav a guerre `a mort……..n Christopher Paolini’s jus fantilacious!!!!!!!!!
on January 10th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
I love eldest and eragon! does anyone know yet what the third book will be called?
on January 22nd, 2006 at 10:26 pm
The third book will be called Empire, Stephen. And the books were simply fantastic. If you liked these books, you’ll love the Dragonriders of Pern series. Go and read them.
on January 30th, 2006 at 1:47 am
i loved both books i thought they were great and i cant wait for empire to come out or the movie they should hurry up and relese it i australia, the books are the best and cp should keep writting fantasy books
on February 21st, 2006 at 12:57 pm
I hope the third book is about to come soon! I really loved them
Anyone have a book suggestion to read till the third one comes out? I love those type of books but I dont want to read piece of c.. as well…
on March 1st, 2006 at 3:13 am
Eragon, was an entertaining and interesting story, eldest was a little weird by swapping back and fourth from roran and eragon all the time but i thouroughly enjoyed both books. The language is quite good even though others may not like it. I like certain parts of the language like: Brisingr and Jierieda. Overall its my fave book
on March 7th, 2006 at 4:11 am
eragon and eldest were both rly cool book i like totally never got bored when i read them!! i rly do hope the 3rd one comes out soon cuz it just leaves u hanging off and cliff wid loads ov questions and everything!!! christopher paolini rly should write some more books hes rly gd!!
on March 7th, 2006 at 4:29 am
hey
do u guys kno when the book emipre is gonna come out??
*christine*
on March 7th, 2006 at 4:31 am
fyrth ur da biggest gay whore is da world!!! ur totally actin like a old man thts totally snobby seriously the books r gr8. how old r u anyhows 82? LOL
on March 16th, 2006 at 12:18 am
I have enjoyed the books,but it is clear that Chris P is a young man who has read the major science fantasy of the 1970’s onward. That is not a bad thing, and that he uses those worlds to create his world conveys his appreciation for those authors. My complaint on the series is that Chris has fallen into the plot trap so many authors do. That is setting up the hero against an enemy that in knowledge and skills far out classes the hero. I mean, Eragon has been with Saphira for well over a year and she is still not the size of a mature dragon, yet suddenly this dragon bigger and more mature than she appears who clearly is much younger than she is. At the end of Eldest, I am left wondering how the author will manage to find a way to allow Eragon and Saphira to be victorious without resorting to some lame sudden miracle as used by the lower tiers of authors. I really hope this can be avoided and the third book be as good as the first.
on March 18th, 2006 at 9:28 am
honestly that fyrth guy is an idiot
I have here quotes from an inspired reader… milan if you’r reading this…
“i mean “the language is just consancances” !!!!!!!! WTF”
“AND “you cant imagin yourself in the strory” !!!!! WTF also”
“YAH RIGHT, I CAN IMAGIN MYSELF IN THE STORY VERY VERY WELL!!!!!!!!!!”
AND “he learned to sword fight in a few weeks”, yah right, he learned in what six monthes!!!!!!”
some people, unlike fyrth, have learned to discard the literal meanings and minute details and pay attention to the story as that is the real point of a story.
can someone give me fyrths adress?
on March 18th, 2006 at 9:31 am
email adress that is
on March 18th, 2006 at 10:17 am
MAN THOSE BOOKS ARE GOOD!! I mean the idiot who said it was a bad book is just a retard, a big fat one too. All the people out there who like “Harry Potter” are STUPID, I swear to god. Harry Pothead is the bad book, SO CRITIC, you go mess with that book and not with the cool Eragon books!! Eragon has a bright future in front of them and not like Harry Pothead, who re-peat’s everything 20 times. This is how the book 4 is like, “Ohh, Harry don’t you remember the time in book 3 how we had some alcohol, well lets get some more!!!!! Lets have some POT, wants some POTTER??!?!?!?!?”
So in conclusion I say that Eragon is ALOT BETTER than Harry Pothead!!!
on April 21st, 2006 at 12:05 am
First off, I just have to say this: All of you who think he is a bad writer for mixing up a bunch of different stories are complete retards who are just saying stuff like that because you are jealous and suck so much at writing yourselves that if you tried, and writing skill made you skinny, you would be so fat you would be selling shade in the summer time. Also, Fyrth is a F*cking retard and wouldn’t know writer’s skill if it wiped it’s fat *ss in her face. Back to mixing up stories, most “good” authors, and even “really good” authors take every fantasy they’ve read and mix it all up to make up their own thing. However, Phenomenal writers make up a new world based on almost nothing - like Tolkien or even George Lucas. Also, on the subject of the Ancient Launguage (Paolini’s made-up launguage), for all you who say that it sucks because it is just gibberish, go listen to someone speak a launguage you don’t know: Chinese, Spanish and french all work good, but any will do. Unsurprisingly, it sounds like gibberish too! Huh! Now isn’t that weird? And it being all consinates, Polish has three vowels. THREE!!! Try learning that! All in all, Eragon pwnes all and any one who says otherwise is either A) a retard who doesn’t know a good book from the c*ck in their *ss, or B) Are F*cking jealous as h*ll and don’t give a sh*t how good it is. My I.Q. is 156 AND I read more books than your mom sucks C*cks, so I know what a good book is. Eragon and especially Eldest are good books and F*ck any who say otherwise.
P.S. Sorry to those who agree for having to even look at this, and also sorry to all who don’t like bad launguage, it’s just hard to express anger any other way without using collage level vocabulary.
P.P.S. Fyrth sucks c*ck for a living while f*cking her self in the *ss at the same time.
on April 21st, 2006 at 12:13 am
Yo mints, when you say that eragon is unoriginal, you’re wrong, plain and simple. Why? Because for a story to be original, it must be different from every other story in some way. Can you find a story that is EXACTLY the same as Eragon/Eldest? Just because it is a mix of different stories doesn’t mean it’s unoriginal. If you take Eldest, and change Eragon’s name to Sajin, it will be an original story. No one will buy it, but it’s original.
on April 21st, 2006 at 12:15 am
One more thing to all you motherf*ckers out there. You had better be insulting Eoin Colfer as well, because he said, himself, that he gets his stories by “taking everything I know, putting it in a blender and writing what comes out, hoping that it’s original.”
(once again) P.S. Fyrth sucks c*ck for a living while f*cking her self in the *ss at the same time.
on May 5th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
I had the entire plotline in my head be the time Eragon gets his fortune read by the skank witch. Toss in annoying lectures on how we should all be good little liberals and I was only finishing the books on sheer will. I can write at least as well as him and if he can get that crap published, who can’t get their pathetic little tales told?
on May 5th, 2006 at 9:16 pm
I’ve read both by the way. And did I mention that Paolini sucks? Good.
on June 12th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
To all of you IDIOTS that think that Eragon And Eldest stink,well,get your self stuffed.
Oh,and,before I leave this horrible place,THANKYOU SO MUCH JAMES! I have been wondering what the third book is!
on June 12th, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Hey Blue! What the heck is you stinking problem? I don’t think that Paloni stinks and I don’t mean to make you mad but I, In my super personel,thinks that deep down you are jelus of Panolini.
sorry.
on June 16th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
A person who says Paolini sucks is either very shallow, ignorant, or just way too critical. Besides, why did you read it if you were only going to say it sucked? Read genres you like, not everything that various people pick up! I hope none of you call me a stuffed shirt, but then people have different opinions on how a proper fantasy should be written. Maybe that’s Blue’s issue. If it can be called an issue. Also, a story is only a bunch of crap if its beginning isn’t solid enough to last for a lifetime(even though it has to end sometime). Then its only a bunch of words. CP took careful time piecing out his story; and a truly meaningful story is something that comes out of the author’s soul. If it doesn’t have that, then, it is trash. Sorry, i’ll go now. See you.
on June 16th, 2006 at 10:26 pm
hey i think that both books were excellent and cant wait till the third book comes out. And that fryth person why dont you shut the fuck up. I’d like to see you write two books as long and well put together as trese were. Earagon and Eldest were two books that i really enjoyed and got sucked into, and for the first time really WANTED to read, because of the excitment and suspense that was built up throughout the story.
on June 16th, 2006 at 10:29 pm
also if all you guys think that his books suck so much why the fuck are you still buying the sequals. If hes such a horrible writer , in your opinion, what the hell are you doing spending money on a book you allready think sucks. You gotta be pretty fuckin stupid to do that.
on June 20th, 2006 at 1:31 pm
Okay, look, people. I assume most of you are children.
You can call people “idiots” all you like for disliking this book, but they could easily call you idiots for liking it. Nobody is stupid because of their tastes. Don’t act so immature.
I find Eragon to be pretty unoriginal. Most of it is ripped right out of Lord of the Rings.
Before you say “WELL U TRY RIHTING A BOOK URSELF!!!”…… I am a writer. I have written many novels.
on June 20th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
By the way, I can’t help but cringe at your total destruction of the English language. All those cuss words just make you look like children trying to act like “grown-ups”. If you’re not a child, then get a better grasp of the English language and stop acting so ridiculous.
on June 22nd, 2006 at 5:07 am
To all of the authors and writers out thr…i dun rly think u should be critisising christopher paolini’s work. I myself hav read a good number of books out thr by many authors..and so far i think christopher paolini’s books r the best. No offense or anything but i think tht christopher paolini is a much better author compared to all of the others in the world. at the age of 15…he can already write such good books….and all of u out thr r like mid 30s or something….even at such a young age…he is stilll the best…so u authors shouldnt be jeolous….a thousand thumbs upfor chris paolini…although i only hav 2
on June 22nd, 2006 at 2:26 pm
i just read eldest and i loved it even though the plot is very slow and doesn’t speed up until the middle of the book.this and the first book, eragon are the best two books ever! i think i like it better than even harry potter, which i loved until i first read eragon. now i can’t wait until the third book comes out and when the movie is releaed i’m hella gonna see it!
on June 25th, 2006 at 2:39 pm
both of these books were swweeet. i cant wait till empire comes out. by the way does anyone have any idea of when its coming out???? and wat do you all think about this movie ? i doubt itll be as good as the book. and willll it be animated or not ??
ALSO i agree with all of u about every1 u criticize cuz thereall biotchs
on June 27th, 2006 at 8:39 am
I don’t claim to be an expert of fantasy, or language, or dragons, or even literature, as some of the other entries I’ve read would have me believe they are, but I have read both books and am waiting with bated breath for the third.
To answer some of the hateful questions that this forum has harbored, I am just over thirty years old and am an aspiring writer. For me to think that I will be published is nothing more than a pipe dream and I have, in my time raising my story like one would a child, I have discovered that writing a story is one of the most difficult tasks I have ever undertaken and can only respect Paolini for not only succeeding in writing a book, but getting it published, making it a best-seller, and being honored with a movie adaptation.
There has been much criticism regarding the originality, (or lack thereof), of the Inheritance Trilogy, and to that, I submit this: fantasy may very well be the oldest genre written and I challenge anybody to come up with an idea that takes place in a fantasy setting that is totally original. J.K. Rowling came up with the most original fantasy series in decades and even she had to recycle characters, and creatures, and even magic.
To conclude my little rant, I say to my fellow Eragon lovers: like you, I cannot wait for the conclusion to what has been a very exciting series and hope for our sakes that it is half of what the other two have been. And to those who have nothing positive to say for the series: here’s a thought, save your money, and don’t buy the third installment of this series which, much to your dismay, is destined to be the quintessential classic fantasy series of our time.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
on July 1st, 2006 at 10:47 pm
I am just finishing Eragon after my first day of reading it! I don’t care what the other people say, I think so far the book is awesome. Who cares that it has links to the Lord of the Rings series, I agree with Kratos , ITS A FANTASY STORY PEOPLE! But i won’t push my oppions on you all but I will make an exception for fyrth and blue: Both of you have sour attitudes and if you two have SUCH a big problem with the trilogy, why don’t you write your own books so other people can shit on them? Anyway, I can’t wait to read Eldest and Empire when it comes out…speaking of which, does anyone know when its coming out?
Email or IM at yahoo if you do: kit_the_cat125@yahoo.com
Thanks!
ShellBelly
on July 2nd, 2006 at 2:03 pm
OMG… u ppl out therr r so serious about this book. Like christa sed erry1 has therr own opionions personally i think paolini copied alot outta lotr and his ancient language was gibberesh but it was a crazy book and kept me all night.. by the way iv heard that on one of paolinis blogs it sed he gave up on writing Empire.. ran outta ideas i heard well iv been looking for like an hour for a sight that sez that so doubt its true. By the way iv read EVERY DAMN REVIEW ON THIS WEBSITE IM SO DAMN BOOOREDDD
P.S fyrth u really r screwed like 50 ppl are after u
on July 7th, 2006 at 11:41 am
hey, hi. the movie will not be animated. for everyone that is reading this, you should check out www.eragonmovie.com and www.alagaesia.com.
on July 7th, 2006 at 11:52 am
i finished both of the books about two weeks into jue. they are SO addictive. i got Eragon when it first came out and my stupid teacher wouldnt let me read it during school. two years later i started to read it again and got Eldest from a family member. when school got out for the summer i read Eragon and Eldest in two weeks (with breaks on the weekends and every three days or so). i think CP is one of the best authors ever and i really dont care where he got the characters and places. for all you people that complain about him “borrowing” from other authors, you need to think about the fact that once you read or see something, it is stuck in your mind and you will use it in other parts of life. as for the language, i think that CP used what he had to make them. you cant make everything in a fantasy book from our world ’cause then it wouldnt be a fantasy book. i think it is good of him to create a language because not many people will do that and continue to use it.and for the record, his words are pronouncable. once when i was messing around i foud a site that had audio pronuncations.
on July 9th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
This is in response to many of the comments above.
To Christa, there is no proof you can give that you are actually a writer of many novels. So please do not attempt to establish credibility by claiming to be one.
However, as for all those who have been called “idiots” and such, I DO respect all of your opinions.
While those who have studied in depth the languages of many fantasy novels and find Paolini’s creation to be sh*tty, I still find it amazing that he, in addition to writing a novel at 15, came up with a language of his own to integrate into it.
I am an avid reader of many genres of literature, including fantasy, and I found Eragon and Eldest to be extremely hard-to-put-down. The story rarely has a dull section in it, and Eragon’s use of magic and its relation to those around him is extremely intriguing.
I am looking for some books similar to Eragon and Eldest, I am an 17 year old male and while Eragon is apparently meant for younger audiences, I found it suitable for me. Any Suggestion?
on July 12th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
fyrth is right about everything he said and any1 who calles him a name is just stupid and hasent read any other books besides eragon/eldest and thats y thay think hes good.
on July 12th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
eragon was cool but eldest was crap. he shouldnt have fallen in love with arya and y the hell doesnt he eat meat? what the hell do u think animals are here for? so u can say” o look at that cow, im so hungry, but it would be mean to eat it” and then die of hunger? screw that im eatin the cow, and any other meat i can if im hungry. and in eldest CP(Christopher Paolini) tryes to make eragon seem all wise and has him talk all stupidly. wtf is with that.
And fyrth is still the smartest person to say anything about the book here.
on July 17th, 2006 at 3:56 am
Of course, there’s no such thing as an entirely original fantasy story anymore. Plot-wise - they’re pretty much the same. What an author has to do is not come up with an original plot, they have to come up with an original way of telling it. So they must write lyrically, metaphorically, cleverly throw in themes that make the readers thing. Their characters have to go beyond the cliches of the fantasy formula - they have to have dimension and interact well.
I picked up Eragon because I’d heard a lot of buzz about it. Why all the buzz? Harry Potter has made children’s fantasy mainstream. The fact that the book was written by a 15 year old - wow, that gives it a story to sell to the customers! That was the gimmick right there. And now there’s a movie! Why’s Eragon so popular? Because it’s bankable, that’s why. And you know what, Britney Spears - also bankable. Talentless, but hey, easy to advertise.
The author gave it a good go, but I was bored with the book. No original storytelling here, and it was quite bland. In the end, this is exactly what it was meant to be - a children’s fantasy book. It is exactly like the hundreds of others I read as a child - entertainment for the moment, but in the end, not memorable. There is nothing here which makes this book stick out from the majority of children’s fantasy, and yet here it is, getting all the attention. It’s not the author’s fault, of course. It’s all the marketing.
The part I’m scratching my head over is why Paolini is being called “the next Tolkien” . I’m sorry, but WHAT?! Open up “The Lord of the Rings” for gawd’s sake! It’s descriptive, it’s lyrical and poetic, it conveys images and thoughts and character development within it’s paragraphs. “Eragon” doesn’t go beyond the words of the page.
I’m not jumping on the Eragon bandwagon. It’s just another book to add to the pile of ones I’ve read and if there wasn’t all the hub-bub about it, I would have most definitely have forgotten it by now. Won’t be picking up the sequels, won’t be seeing the movie.
on July 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
I thought that Eldest was better than the first book,Eragon. Eldest threw tons of curves at u like Eragon turning into a human-elf. does anyone know when the next book,Empire, is going to be published
on July 18th, 2006 at 1:04 am
Paolini has some terrible writing…Ill say that. Paolini copied Tolkien…Ill say that. I can write better than Paolini (Im the same age too)…by a long shot…Ill say that.
Fact is…Paolinis storyline isnt bad…but BOY DOES IT ANGER ME WHEN I SEE NAMES COPIED FROM THE SILMARILLION AND LOTR. IT DRIVES ME BERSERK! I mean you think he could name his own places but calling something THE HADARAC DESERT! (DOES HARAD RING A BELL?!) or MELIAN (EXACT NAME OF THE MAIA WIFE OF KING THINGOL)…there are many more names if you have not realized.
The day my novel comes out and soars above his will be a good day indeed.
CHIRHO-silmeluva-silmekil
on July 19th, 2006 at 12:51 am
Speaking of names - “Ajihad”? OH COME ON!
on July 19th, 2006 at 12:54 am
Wow haha, theres a lot of crap in here about how much Christopher Paolini is bad at writing. I am an avid reader, reading at least 2 books a week since I was about 11 years old. Im 22 now and I believe i’m able to spot a hit when I see it. I saw Eragon on store shelves when it came out and I was a bit apprehensive. I picked it up looked it over, read a little while at the shop and believed that it copied a bit from LOTR. Well after a bit if indecision I decided to give it a try, you never know.
I’ve read both books now and can honestly say that CP knows how to write. This story is emotional where it should be and put me in a right state at various times. CP did not in any way take anything from LOTR, this is a FANTASY book. There is no quest to get rid of a ring, there weren’t even dragons abound in LOTR. His books are well done and I believe whatever he writes will and should be applauded in the future. The people on this site that say this book is contrived from other fantasy books would be obvious. How many fantasy books out there are completely original? You write about what you know and if what you know is what you read then of course that affects your writing style.
I congrat Christopher Paolini on his first two books, both have put him up there in my current favorite authors along with the like of Stephen King, Dean Koontz, Anne Rice, Laurell K. Hamilton, and many others who know what they are doing. I look forward to the third book in his series and scoff at those who relentless yell from the rafters about his book stealing ways. For shame people. for shame.
From: A well-read(Tooting my own horn here) guy just a bit angry at a few people who obviously don’t know anything about what they are talking about, as well as a guy who feels a sort of kindred spirit with those who commended CP for his wonderful work.
PS: And to think that he bagan to write Eragon at age 15, what a wonder, congrats again to Christopher Paolini, and may he never enter a forum and see some of the crap that some poeple post about wonderful books, lest he may surrender writing to something else crushing my hopes for more literary works from an up-and-coming master of the word.
on July 19th, 2006 at 12:58 am
Also, I hate to double post but for those of you who like the trilogy so far and are looking for more about it go to Shurtugal.com for a bit more info
Also, the name Empire is not guaranteed to be the name of the book, the name as Christopher Paolini has said, isn’t yet set in stone and its not even been said by him that Empire was a possibility, though he hasn’t said anything against it.
Also As-so-far as the date of the 3rd book coming out, there hasn’t been a certain release date yet, thoug they say that it will not be in 2006, but closer to summer of 2007.
That is all and I bid thee farewell.
on July 22nd, 2006 at 12:53 am
Wow. all u ppl are fucking assholes. saying that the books suck. u can write a book nowadays without it being similar to somwone else’s. OH fucck this book. theres bad gramar. wow. idiots. most ppl in theis crappy empirea re uneducated so they have bad grammer. id like to see u write ur own language thats not shitty like fyrth the shit licker.
on July 26th, 2006 at 7:27 pm
Two books a week? If it’s all been fantasy, then I wouldn’t say you’re well read. I WOULD say that you know the fantasy genre really well. If you read a lot of current events, history, literature, biography, non-fiction - aka a VARIETY of books, well then you’re well read.
See, as much as I love fantasy (and any English major will agree with me on this next part), I do acknowledge that the majority of the genre is pure entertainment and doesn’t require much thought to get through or interpretation. I used to get all defensive when my English major friends poked fun at fantasy for being an easy read, until I started picking up other books and I realized that they were right.
on August 2nd, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Hey Everyone,
I would like to say that Eragon and Eldest aren’t the best books I’ve had the pleasure of reading but they’re pretty close. Also, those of you who say CP is a very unskilled writer just recognize the fact that he wrote Eragon when he was still a teenager. I think that’s impressive. However, I don’t think u guys should give Fryth any trouble he’s just expressing his opinion, plus he’s only hurting himself bt acting in a negative manner studies show that you will die at a younger age. And an unhappy lifestyle. “live and let live”
Peace Out!!!
p.s. I hope everyone enjoys the third book and the movies!
on August 4th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
I couldn’t help but glance at some of the entrys and was angered a bit be some of the immature responses. I really don’t appreciate when people insult authors, whether their books are bad or not. Don’t read them if you don’t like them. I could criticize every author out there, because there is always something wrong with their book or books. If you didn’t like the genre or the story even, don’t say, “it was shit.” I could say the same for Stephen King. His books were way too descriptive and downright boring at some points, but his books weren’t “shit”. Just because you didn’t like the book doesn’t mean that others didn’t either. I love books, and all type for that fact, but when someone asks me about a book I didn’t have much interest in, I don’t say, “Oh, that book sucked, don’t read it.” I say, “it wasn’t to my liking, but it might be to yours.” It is not easy to write a book that a percentage of people enjoy. Don’t create havoc because you think the author doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Half the time, you don’t know the things you’re talking about. Paolini was just a kid doing his dream of writing what was in his mind. So what if it isn’t realistic. What fantasy book is realistic? Books like his are made to be that way, so you can dream of it and escape the world today. Tolkien’s books were thought of that way, and so were C.S. Lewis’ books too. They were all thought to be unrealistic and childish. Look where they are today. Don’t shatter his dream of writing what’s in his mind. Let him dream.
on August 7th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
I agree with Tigerlilly. What he’s accomplished for his age, is amazing, more than I could ever do. So quit being a bunch of name callers, and just enjoy the book. If you don’t like Harry potter, the Inheritance trilogy, or any other book for that matter, then don’t fucking read it. Simple as that. Don’t denigrate him, or his style, just give him the respect and credit every other author deserves for writing. They put themselves out there, to our mercy and criticism. Their books mirror their souls, it’s like a part of them. And although I don’t think he would take much offense or think twice to what a bunch of immature kids would say about him, it’s still very unpolite. What would Oromis say?? And don’t bring down those who enjoy Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, or other types of Fantasy Sci/fi. This isn’t a supid contest or who’s against who, or who’s cooler than who. The damn books are just meant to be enjoyed, so do just that.
Anywhoo, I happed to enjoy Eldest more so than Eragon, but I still enjoyed both. Can’t wait until the next book comes out, I’ll keep an eye out. Good job Chris Paolini!!! Thanks for the great read!
on August 8th, 2006 at 1:06 am
fyrth is the biggest fking retard that woulnt know good writing if it shat on him
i mean its a fking story who cares if the ancient language is gibberish if u had never heard any thing but english what would something lyke chinese.
the onli authors that can even compare with christopher paolini is anthony horiwitz and tolkien.
P.S and that gayirl Julia Barcia who says she read dem both 45 times is a load of bull shit
on August 8th, 2006 at 1:09 am
yrth is the biggest fking retard that woulnt know good writing if it shat on him
i mean its a fking story who cares if the ancient language is gibberish if u had never heard any thing but english what would something lyke chinese sound like
the onli authors that can even compare with christopher paolini is anthony horiwitz and tolkien.
P.S soz i screwed up in da other one
on August 8th, 2006 at 1:13 am
fyrth is the biggest fking retard that woulnt know good writing if it shat on him
i mean its a fking story who cares if the ancient language is gibberish if u had never heard any thing but english what would something lyke chinese sound lyke to u.
the onli authors that can even compare with christopher paolini is anthony horiwitz and tolkien.
P.S. i screwed up with the other one so i had 2 write it again
on August 9th, 2006 at 12:27 pm
Ok, this is my first time writing to one of these so bear with me. I am not an avid reader and when I read it takes me week of picking up and putting down a book to finish it between gameing and working two jobs plus other responcibilities. However with Eragon I found myself doing nothing but reading. I lost all intrest in my games wich is a big deal and finish the book in a week. Slow by your standards im sure but for someone like me who reads only when forced to thats a landmark record. In Eldest it was far worse I would stay up late into the night reading even though I knew work would come early. I dont know how to breakdown the elements of the book as eloquently as most of you to tell you exactly what I loved about it but I can say that it had me completely wrapped up and I cant wait for the third one. I constantly think about when It might be released and thats something I never thought that I would say about a book.
on August 10th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
when is empire coming out!!!!!!!!!!!
on August 11th, 2006 at 10:00 am
Hi, I’m getting seriously vexed as I read some of these irritating reviews. A lot of you people seem to think Paolini is an amateur. It wouldn’t be anymore obvious if ‘AMATEUR’ was written beside his name on the front cover but that’s because he was fifteen when he wrote the first book! Can’t you give him a break? Did any of you write best sellers when you were fifteen? Scratch that, did any of you ever write best sellers? I thought not!
on August 11th, 2006 at 10:24 am
Hi everyone. I am very vexed as I read some of these ignorant reviews. A lot of people seem to be calling Paolini an amateur. I thought, ‘It could not have been more obvious if ‘AMATEUR’ was written beside his name on the front cover.’ This is only because he was fifteen when he wrote it. Give him a break. Did any of you write a best-seller when you were fifteen? Scratch that, did any of you write a best-seller? I thought not.
I thoroughly enjoyed reading the two books so far and I cannot wait until Empire comes out and also the Eragon film.
Most of the reviewers describe Eragon as a Lord of the Rings rip off. Everytime a book includes magic, dwarves and elves, you can’t brand it a Lord of the Rings rip off. It annoys me! Would someone please be so kind as to point out the similarities. Urguls aren’t that different from orcs and Brom isn’t too different from Gandalf (but what fantasy book doesn’t have an old, wise magician-sort of leader) but that is about it as far as I am concerned. Everyone seems to be missing the real rip off: Star Wars. The Inheritance trilogy is Star Wars with magic and dragons. Where to begin? O.K. Brom is Obi-Won Kenobi (Not sure of the spelling). They are both the old, wise, second last of their kind. I haven’t read Eldest in quite a while but you know the Mourning Sage, he is the Yoda of Inheritance. He went into hiding to train the new Jedi or Dragon Rider. The next similarity is the whole ‘I am your father!’ twist. Next, take a closer look at the passage where Brom tells everyone of how Galbatorix came to power in the opening chapters of Eragon. It is very alike how Vadar came to power. Anakin and Galbatorix were tested for power at the age of ten and both rose quickly up the ranks. His dragon dying is similar to Anakin’s mother dying. Arya the elf was imprisoned like Leia and Eragon and Murtagh went to rescue her like Luke and Han. Brom dies as Obi-Won does. Those were all just off the top of my head and I haven’t read the books recently so that shows how much they are alike. Now that you have read all of that, please don’t go thinking I hate Inheritance. It’s actually to the contrary. I love it and CP should all the support he can get and I hope he writes even more Sci-Fi or Fantasy books!!!
on August 11th, 2006 at 12:05 pm
I would just like to say that i loved the inheritence series so for! Keep up the good work Paoloni!
P.S. who knows when the next one comes out?
on August 12th, 2006 at 6:41 am
well, i`ve just finished reading both books, n i think that they`re great books. can`t wait to read the final book of the trilogy. Peace Yo!!
on August 12th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
Hey, its my first time writing to one of these forums so bear with me.
The people who think these books are bad (and many other un-appropriate words) are full of crap. Christopher P. is a great author also I have reccomended these book to all of my friends and they cant even put in words how great these books are. I have heard that the new book (Empire) will not be released until the summer of 2007 possibly earlier also the movie will be coming out mid December. Also if you think his books are bad then why are you buying Eldest after you thought Eargon was horrible.
on August 13th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
too ryt. paolini rocks!!!!!!!
on August 13th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
i canny wait d c the film.no official trailer has been released unfortunatley but a few pieces of footage have leaked thru and if u want to c a fan-made trailer go to my site… David-Neely.bebo.com …its where the flashbox is. enjoy. its pure class
on August 31st, 2006 at 8:36 pm
Yall spend so much time insulting each other that you forget that this is for reviews about the book…not putting each other down. However, fyrth raises some good points. For example, Eragon’s constant personality change is, frankly, annoying. However, I read and enjoyed both books, although Eragon’s constant obsession with Arya in the second book is just plain distracting.
PS Super Cool Man In China, this is the review page for Eragon And Eldest and Christopher Paolini, NOT Harry Potter and JK Rowling… Thats somewhere else
on September 3rd, 2006 at 7:35 am
I am desparately waiting for the third Book. The Books are tremendous. Issues are Logically dealt with. Much better than Narnia or the Potter series, though they also are very interesting…
on September 5th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
i think that eragon and eldest both r super good books and the people who insulted the auther try writing a book as great as this book.But my opinion this book is very good in fact its the best ive read so far(ive read far over 10000 books)and this book is very good.the bad part is that u get cufused sometimes.but hey its a great book
on September 5th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
and im very eager to see the third book
ps.the title my not be called ‘’empire'’
on September 5th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
poonpatrol69 is an idiot!why dont u kiss a person for a start 2?
on September 5th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
i agree with matt
on September 5th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
i agree withu 2 cool man from china eragon and edelst r alot better than harry pothead or butthead i dont even no why its soooooooooooo popular!?!??!!!!!??!?!!!!?
on September 5th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
poo(blue) u suck!!!!
on September 9th, 2006 at 1:22 am
I am a female and usually i have no time ot read silly fantasy books but since i read Eragon it has changed how i feel about fantasy. Eldest for me is so far great although i tend to notice that at the start it contains lots of fighting. Although i am halfway through tjhe book i’m sure it will end great. I canniot wait for the third book.
Christopher Paolini to me is an inspiration and i love how his ideas flow freely in the book, it shows a lot of effort and a lot of good describing. Not many books can put you there in the middle of the story where you can see it through your own eyes and not many books make you feel sad happy or angry and i am pleased to say that Christopher Paolini’s has done that to me.
Although i didn’t cry in Eragon or Eldest so far i believe that for a young boy to write his first book then to continue is a lot of work.
I myself am writing a book so i know how it feels.
I love the way the books are set out and i know what a relief it must be when your book is finally published and out there for the world to see.
I am shocked that his book is so loved yet i myself can also understand why it is loved.
the book wasn’t plain at all or boring it was mostly up and down with twists and turns.
Well in conclusion it is a fantastic book and i think fantasy lovers would enjoy reading it as i know i have.
By the way i never put it down throughout breakfast, lunch or dinner,
And how amazing are the pictures on the book cover, it is exactly how i imagined the dragons.
on September 10th, 2006 at 6:31 pm
Can someone plz tell me what the 3rd book of inhardence is comming out and wat it is called!!!!!!!
on September 11th, 2006 at 2:49 am
Eragon, I belive is one of the better books I have read. Can i just say that i absolutly dissagree with everything that fyrth said (About 4th comment frrom the top) yYou are obviously ignorant, if you read with an open mind you would see that Eragon is a great book. You are a bullshitter… THere is a copy of this person so called opinion below! retard….
If there was one redeeming quality in Eragon or Eldest, it was the dragon Sapphira. But she was the only thing that was enjoyable.
Paolini, to be frank, is an ametuer writer and the fact that his novels were published is a classic example of when good chances happen to bad ideas. The stereotypes are massive, numerous, and impossible to ignore. Eragon is far from a likeable hero, instead he alternates between wonder-boy to whiny infant in the space of a few pages. The fact alone that he could have learned to swordfight well in a few weeks gives you an indication of how unrealistic he is. The names and places are pathetic. Paolini seems to think that because he created a language he should automatically win the praise of the public. In actuallity, it doesn’t take much to create a language, especially one that is as mediocre as his. Look, I’’l do it right now.
Egrtejebkje: dragon
Hehjoiejoiejp: man
getebehb: the verb to be, conjugated into
I am: getegehj
she is/he is: getegbe
it is: getetete
they are: getretetetetetete
we are: getetevf
And we have the first several words for my new language, which is as un-pronouceable as Paolini’s. Easy. The only thing that gave Tolkien’s language such life was that, in reality, Tolkien was a linguist which meant that he studied languages and had a grasp for grammatical structures. Paolini hasn’t done that. Like me, he just combines words with a few consistencies and calls them a language.
Previous critics have mentioned the Lord of the Rings and Mcaffery stereotypes. There are also references to Star Wars, Jordan, and Martin’s name Arya has been recycled by Paolini to serve as the name of a beautiful (of course) elf.
Eragon’s romance is pathetic. The charatcers’ depths are so shallow that they prevent any reader from immerging themselves in the book. Overall, it is just sickening that so many people can call this rubbish a passable story
Overall you make me sick,dickhead…. yeah they are all so shallow, you are a fuckwit!!! read the book they are indepth and individual… didn’t you see on the movie posers??? new york times bestseller!! which is more than you could say!! i wish i could say all of this to you.. the shit you wrote is the biggest bunch of garbagge in the world… yeah sick one.. trying to make up your own languarge and saying that it is “as un-pronouceable as Paolini’s.” oi before you start paying out someones languarge look at your own sad exuse for a name?? Fyth?? wtf??? loser… or better yet try and really make up your own langurage and make it seem like its not taken from any languarge on earth.. because if u read the book properly, it is fanasy and it doesnt have anything to do with our earth you literall faggot.. god… it’s called imagination… get one!! or better still dont read FANASY books if you are just going to pay them out!!! i honestly can’t say how furious i am with you comments….
um could you please write a book so i can read it go onto a website and pay the shit out of it???
looking foward to your “far from a likeable ” book by an “ammeture” you!!!!
dumbass…
the books are amazing and i can’t wait unti the third one comes out!!
Loyal Eragon fan…
Clair
on September 16th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
The whole story is a cliche, combining all the elements of typical hero-fantasy epic books.
Read something original instead of this
on September 17th, 2006 at 2:40 am
Well both this books was great. i have read the other ppls comments here and some of you or most of you say that its like Tolkien’s
Yes maybe it is. but this book has sides from other books and there is noting bad with that
Some of the magic forces and things are like in Pawn of the profecy by david edding. and other sides of the book is like other books.
C,P has done an relly good job for his young age. And fyrth about the lang, and the book. if you can’t do it better. please don’t whine.
on September 17th, 2006 at 11:05 pm
WHEN IS THE THIRD FUCKING BOOK COMMING OUT???!?!?! I NEED IT
on September 19th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
Is this some kind of joke? Eragon was maybe the single most poorly written, ill-conceived, pedantic, hackneyed, juvenile pile of dribble I’ve ever read in my entire life. The fact that someone would even mention it in the same sentence as Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, or the Chronicles of Narnia, shows exactly the kind of damage that popular culture is inflicting upon literature. It was a phenomenon bread of a novelty act: its blindingly inexperienced author Christopher Paolini. Of course a movie would be made of this book; Hollywood is ever seeking to stand on the shoulders of greater works, which is exactly what Paolini has done in his exercise in thrash-and-bash pop-lit, laughingly passed off as a novel. No, Eragon will not stand beside the afore mentioned great epics, it will be filed in the dusty, forgotten catacombs of other such ridiculous flashes in the pan as the Suri Cruise picture scandal and Pogs. Hollywood: well-done, surly you’ll rake in the cash along with the droves of gum chewing zombies who probably never even sat down to read the book in the first place, on which you so love to feed. Paolini: get yourself out of home-schooling for five minutes and realize that the world does not revolve around you.
on September 23rd, 2006 at 8:38 am
wat is wrong with most of u Eragon and Eldest is the best books ive ever read u try writtin a book at fifteen and it turns out 2 be bestsellers u ppl who say it “sucks” are just a bunch of F****in retards who got nothin better to do but mock one of the best authors i and many others whoevr says this book sucks why u keep buyin the sequels ur just jealous of talent wen u see it like fyrth KEEP UR GAY ASS OPINIONS TO UR SELF NO1 CARES
on September 23rd, 2006 at 9:25 pm
First of all i think Eragon and Eldest are amazing books.
I just wanted to say that no matter wat ur view is u dont do ur side any favors by sounding completely ignorant when u use curse words.
on September 25th, 2006 at 2:37 pm
Well, I have just finished book two, and I have to say I was good, I have noticed some similarities to other books and other authors that I have read. And yes, I can tell that Chris has read David Eddings’ The Belgariad and Mallorean, and Stephen King’s The Dark Towers, Both of which I loved. Those are the two that struck me as obvious. Yes, there is some repeation in this genre, there has to be ( i.e. bad things go on in the world, young hero has something change his life, he leaves said life to try to fix it and ends up saving the whole world, all the while he just wants to go back to the way he was). If you want original go read Stienbeck’s Travels with Charlie, or Winter of our Discontent, or Hemingway’s A Farewell to Arms. Or if you want to enlighten yourself read Plato’s The Republic or read the Fedralist papers by Hamilton. But save the S/F and Fantasy for your enjoyment.
Will this triolgy stand with LoTR or the above mentioned, we will see. Personaly I have enjoyed it so far, and can’t wait for book three, and that is what really counts (yes I am very selfish and only care about myself and my happiness). But before you critique Chris’ work, ask yourself; how many books have I written and of those how many were published? Or you could ask yourself “I wonder why Random House hasn’t called me back on the resume that I submited for that Editor postion? Anyway thats my two cents. Peace Love and don’t be a Hippy!
on September 29th, 2006 at 5:49 pm
I LOVE ERAGON AND ELDEST!!!!!!
I WANNA KNOW WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE THIRD BOOK AND WHEN IS IT GONNA COME OUT!
IM SOOOO EXCITED!.
on October 1st, 2006 at 5:52 pm
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